Comments on: The state of the web: August 2006 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/ my god, it's full of stars Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:07:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Robert http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3147 Robert Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:21:11 +0000 http://warpspire.com/journal/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3147 <p>I couldn't agree more with the need to move away from "enterprise" solutions and the benifits that come from such a movement. We need to start seeing buisnesses running on systems that don't look and feel like they were built in the 90's.</p> I couldn’t agree more with the need to move away from “enterprise” solutions and the benifits that come from such a movement. We need to start seeing buisnesses running on systems that don’t look and feel like they were built in the 90’s.

]]> By: Ron http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3127 Ron Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:52:53 +0000 http://warpspire.com/journal/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3127 <p>I couldn't agree with you more Kyle. Accept I think the Flash/Flex developers will still play a major role in Web 2.0, and I already see the trend of agencies searching for the breed you speak of.</p> I couldn’t agree with you more Kyle. Accept I think the Flash/Flex developers will still play a major role in Web 2.0, and I already see the trend of agencies searching for the breed you speak of.

]]> By: Joel http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3117 Joel Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:19:26 +0000 http://warpspire.com/journal/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3117 <p>I guess my problem exists that if you were to defend, say, the experience without being a Lawyer by profession would you be, or have the right to call yourself, an Experience Lawyer? Or if you were to look at the business side of things, and not be an accountant or have a formal education in the area, but run the numbers would you have the right to call yourself an Accountant (Chartered, Practicing or otherwise).</p> <p>I guess I take issues with the use of the word Engineer. You seem to see it as purely the methodoly rather than the profession, the training and the achievement of attaining the education.</p> <p>In Australia there's a big push by the Institute of Engineers, the formal national body for engineers, to ensure that the use of the word "Engineer" is not abused, that those utilising it have the relevant qualifications. To maintain the brand so to speak. The formal qualifications are to have achieved a Bachelor of Engineering from a registered university in a registered course. There is a requirement of honours, so the course is a minimum of four years. Likewise internationally there is normally a requirement for one to have an engineering degree to undertake some aspects of engineering work.</p> <p>PS: there's no pure BE program in the states?</p> I guess my problem exists that if you were to defend, say, the experience without being a Lawyer by profession would you be, or have the right to call yourself, an Experience Lawyer? Or if you were to look at the business side of things, and not be an accountant or have a formal education in the area, but run the numbers would you have the right to call yourself an Accountant (Chartered, Practicing or otherwise).

I guess I take issues with the use of the word Engineer. You seem to see it as purely the methodoly rather than the profession, the training and the achievement of attaining the education.

In Australia there’s a big push by the Institute of Engineers, the formal national body for engineers, to ensure that the use of the word “Engineer” is not abused, that those utilising it have the relevant qualifications. To maintain the brand so to speak. The formal qualifications are to have achieved a Bachelor of Engineering from a registered university in a registered course. There is a requirement of honours, so the course is a minimum of four years. Likewise internationally there is normally a requirement for one to have an engineering degree to undertake some aspects of engineering work.

PS: there’s no pure BE program in the states?

]]> By: Kyle http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3116 Kyle Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:14:34 +0000 http://warpspire.com/journal/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3116 <p>Joel, I'm not sure if you're aware - but I'm currently one year away from a B.S. in Civil Engineering. I would be the last person to dillute the word. In terms of it's meaning, I've always taken Engineer to be someone who takes theoretical knowledge and applies to better the world we live in. Which, to me... in some ways, is what the web is all about :) So, yeah. I'll call it Experience Engineer right now ;)</p> Joel, I’m not sure if you’re aware - but I’m currently one year away from a B.S. in Civil Engineering. I would be the last person to dillute the word. In terms of it’s meaning, I’ve always taken Engineer to be someone who takes theoretical knowledge and applies to better the world we live in. Which, to me… in some ways, is what the web is all about :) So, yeah. I’ll call it Experience Engineer right now ;)

]]> By: Joel http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3114 Joel Mon, 14 Aug 2006 06:08:27 +0000 http://warpspire.com/journal/ia-usability/the-state-of-the-web-august-2006/#comment-3114 <p>Whilst I agree with you about "web 2.0" - that it is part hype where people don't plan properly, and part supurb business where they do (utilising the fact that the web is essentially "borderless" - minus the Great Firewall's of some nations - to bring together people that never before could) - I implore you to not use the word "engineer" so lightly.</p> <p>Engineering is a profession that requires a large educational and practical background to achieve success. The word has been much diluted through incorrect use and as a result the picture of engineers in the public's eyes is much distorted. Just a note from someone who's studied energy systems engineering - referring to an "experience engineer" diminishes the word engineer as a profession where specialist tertiary education is a key requirement.</p> Whilst I agree with you about “web 2.0″ - that it is part hype where people don’t plan properly, and part supurb business where they do (utilising the fact that the web is essentially “borderless” - minus the Great Firewall’s of some nations - to bring together people that never before could) - I implore you to not use the word “engineer” so lightly.

Engineering is a profession that requires a large educational and practical background to achieve success. The word has been much diluted through incorrect use and as a result the picture of engineers in the public’s eyes is much distorted. Just a note from someone who’s studied energy systems engineering - referring to an “experience engineer” diminishes the word engineer as a profession where specialist tertiary education is a key requirement.

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