There should be a law on 37 signals site… Do not attempt to sell yourself as a RoR developer until you can develop a whole site with classes, methods, functions, and SQL statements of your own.

PHP is still free… 100%… just look at PHP’s site. only thing advertised there is PHP conferences.

have fun with this… i am going back to my non drama PHP!

Hey DHH, stop whining like a little bitch when someone criticizes your stupid “opinions”. Wake up and smell the roses. There is a lot of unfinished crappy web2.0 shitty apps out there that no-one is looking at.

You won’t hear 37 signals sgnalling the death of Kiko or EhList or Kweschun… there is plenty of other rails crapsites sitting there waiting for the hits..

Unfortunately, NO ONE is clicking! And if you talk to the fanboys, they sound like idiotic cult members. All of a sudden having an opinion, ANY MORONIC OPINION, is cool. “A database is like a hash” What the FKing FCK???? ARE YOU F**KING KIDDING ME?

No wonder you see douchebags getting a 10 thousand item list with a select * from the activerecord so they can do a Userlist.size !!!! YOU EVER HEARD OF “SELECT COUNT(*)” you numbnuts? Oh wait .. a database is just a hash like DHH says..

Stopping USING opensource when it suits your corporate purposes to get the free beta testing you craven corpo-whores! And stop treating the community like shit.

Give me a break!

It recognises the truth that EVERY assertion in life cannot be objective, therefore as we’re taking a subjective role by making an assertion (and writing software and designing something IS making an assertion), Rails dares to be so bold as to be aware of its choices.

Choosing not to choose is still a choice! And all of the frameworks and coding methodologies that have gone before have attempted to do this. That choice doesn’t help day to day, because day to day, we still have to make choices. Rails makes those choices easier FOR us, by making some general assumptions, and by doing that, we’re free to see where we stand on the issue.

If Rails hadn’t made choices for us, we woudn’t be able to see where we stand on such issues, and the beauty of Rails is that after IT having made those default choices, if we want to abandon the “ease of use” and go with the “cusomization” route, then we’re free to go against the choices Rails has made for us, in part or in full.

In the same way, as the framework is opinionated, so is its director - DHH. You can bet that every single thing that comes from him will have a stance, and the stance will be made in full consciousness that it IS a stance.

Yes, there is advertising for the job board on the rails site. The rails site is an ad for rails - whether you like it, or whether you don’t. Regardless of whether there is a “donate with paypal” button, or something more useful like the job board, it’s still a call to support those who work day to day on the administration, advertising, marketing and management of the framework. But rather than a “give us money” call, it’s a call with a purpose and a use.

http://www.crunchboard.com/

What I will say is that by requiring payment for adverts, you are weeding out the real jobs from those that are not. Forcing people to pay to advertise for a job (globally I might add) makes them look at what they are looking for and actually adds to the value of the board. Just an idea on that front.

I’m curious as to how you think I’m imposing my view onto you. I’m merely expressing my opinion (as, I agree, it is my definition, not everyones). The same way that Rails is opinionated software, I am an opinionated user.

But enforcing an ultimatum on me to live with your view or quit using Rails… well, I suppose that’s all that needs to be said.