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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/personal/of-higher-education-lower-education-and-everything-in-between/#comment-17925</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, if you don't have to college to marry someone, get that person pregnant and take care of a baby and raise a kid, then why do you have to go to college or why is a degree required if you're going to work at discovery cove and train or work with dolphins? Also if you want a degree but don't want to go to college you can get a degree without going to college. just do a google search for instant college degrees online . if you want you can email me about this at jkenn337@gmail.com .&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, if you don&#8217;t have to college to marry someone, get that person pregnant and take care of a baby and raise a kid, then why do you have to go to college or why is a degree required if you&#8217;re going to work at discovery cove and train or work with dolphins? Also if you want a degree but don&#8217;t want to go to college you can get a degree without going to college. just do a google search for instant college degrees online . if you want you can email me about this at <a href="mailto:jkenn337@gmail.com">jkenn337@gmail.com</a> .</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/personal/of-higher-education-lower-education-and-everything-in-between/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that every person should go to college, regardless of the cost, because it presents room for a lot of growth both mentally and emotionally.  I always encourage every Freshman I meet, however, to not declare their major until after they have take their basics.  That way, they know what it is that they are good at, bad at, and more importantly, what it is that they are passionate about.  From that point, they can move forward.  This is not a perfect recipe for success, but it helps.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that every person should go to college, regardless of the cost, because it presents room for a lot of growth both mentally and emotionally.  I always encourage every Freshman I meet, however, to not declare their major until after they have take their basics.  That way, they know what it is that they are good at, bad at, and more importantly, what it is that they are passionate about.  From that point, they can move forward.  This is not a perfect recipe for success, but it helps.</p>
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		<title>By: robert canales blog Archive &#187; The new school is no school.</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert canales blog Archive &#187; The new school is no school.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The new school is no school.  And that&#8217;s alright with me.        Tagged: Design / blogosphere [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The new school is no school.  And that&#8217;s alright with me.        Tagged: Design / blogosphere [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Lindley</title>
		<link>http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/personal/of-higher-education-lower-education-and-everything-in-between/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Cody Lindley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do I want to go to college? Simple. It creates more opportunity then if I did not attend. I don't like the fact that most employers regard a college degree as vital to a particular position, but the fact remains that most do! So, instead of limiting my opportunity, I would choose to attend college, jump through the hoop, and open doors that might not be available to me unless I had attended college. Sure, if you can get a foot in the door without a degree then the degree is not likely relevant. However this is not what happens the majority of the time. So, I was the question, Why not go to college? It will certainly create more opportunity than if you didn't go.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I want to go to college? Simple. It creates more opportunity then if I did not attend. I don&#8217;t like the fact that most employers regard a college degree as vital to a particular position, but the fact remains that most do! So, instead of limiting my opportunity, I would choose to attend college, jump through the hoop, and open doors that might not be available to me unless I had attended college. Sure, if you can get a foot in the door without a degree then the degree is not likely relevant. However this is not what happens the majority of the time. So, I was the question, Why not go to college? It will certainly create more opportunity than if you didn&#8217;t go.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pidde</title>
		<link>http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/personal/of-higher-education-lower-education-and-everything-in-between/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Pidde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There's really nothing wrong with going to a community college for a year or two before transferring to a university.  God forbid you save yourself thousands of dollars while you take gen. ed. courses.  They can hardly teach you anything different between the two types of schools, unless I'm greatly mistaken.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Depending on what you want to do, a Technical College is a great choice.  That's what I'm going to now.  As far as networking, programming, web developement, and so forth they really are keeping current.  Next semester one of the teachers is even putting AJAX into his curriculum, believe it or not. Then there's the comparative pricing.  While at a state university you pay 10-15 k a year, i'm paying a third of that.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So what I'm really saying is there's no problem waiting to go to a university.  Community colleges and trade schools are just fine, and nobody should think less of them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s really nothing wrong with going to a community college for a year or two before transferring to a university.  God forbid you save yourself thousands of dollars while you take gen. ed. courses.  They can hardly teach you anything different between the two types of schools, unless I&#8217;m greatly mistaken.</p>
<p>Depending on what you want to do, a Technical College is a great choice.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to now.  As far as networking, programming, web developement, and so forth they really are keeping current.  Next semester one of the teachers is even putting AJAX into his curriculum, believe it or not. Then there&#8217;s the comparative pricing.  While at a state university you pay 10-15 k a year, i&#8217;m paying a third of that.  </p>
<p>So what I&#8217;m really saying is there&#8217;s no problem waiting to go to a university.  Community colleges and trade schools are just fine, and nobody should think less of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know, it's about time some puts this in their blog.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm 19, and right now I attend a Jesuit university in Wisconsin, Marquette University.  And you know what, it was the biggest, most expensive mistake of my life.  I wasted away around $15K for a year of college that was basically high school all over again.  I slept in class, I skipped when I could and the entire environment was everything I hated about school.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Looking back on it I feel as though I was pushed into the more expensive, private school because the mentality goes "The more expensive, the better the education."  Little did I know that damn near everything they stood for was everything I did not want to stand for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, now I'm faced with the debackle of going to a state university or just not going.  Not going is kind of out of the question because a college degree gives credibility, connections, general knowledge, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My advice is to really and I mean really sit down and dwell, not just think, but dwell on the idea of going to college.  It might be for you, but it might not.  I have yet to see what I want to do, and I've been dwelling for over a year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, it&#8217;s about time some puts this in their blog.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 19, and right now I attend a Jesuit university in Wisconsin, Marquette University.  And you know what, it was the biggest, most expensive mistake of my life.  I wasted away around $15K for a year of college that was basically high school all over again.  I slept in class, I skipped when I could and the entire environment was everything I hated about school.</p>
<p>Looking back on it I feel as though I was pushed into the more expensive, private school because the mentality goes &#8220;The more expensive, the better the education.&#8221;  Little did I know that damn near everything they stood for was everything I did not want to stand for.</p>
<p>So, now I&#8217;m faced with the debackle of going to a state university or just not going.  Not going is kind of out of the question because a college degree gives credibility, connections, general knowledge, etc.</p>
<p>My advice is to really and I mean really sit down and dwell, not just think, but dwell on the idea of going to college.  It might be for you, but it might not.  I have yet to see what I want to do, and I&#8217;ve been dwelling for over a year.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/personal/of-higher-education-lower-education-and-everything-in-between/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 07:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Having talked with many recruiters of large business and having done a lot of hiring myself, a college degree is not really about using your degree for your future career. The key factor that most all businesses look at first, is how long you have been with each job you have had. They are looking at your commitment level. A college degree is huge, and I mean a huge, plus in showing that you are commited to improving yourself and you are commited to sticking with what you have started. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a lot of money put into each new hire for any business. These businesses don't want to lose money because they hired someone who isn't commited to starting a career with them and quits in a month.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another aspect that doesn't receive much attention is that college teaches you how to learn and be diversified in your learning. Also, if common sense is applied, then students learn to give their professors what the professors want when completing homework, which is key in any school and work environment. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Although you may not use the knowledge you gained from earning your degree within your career lifetime, you pick up skills along the way and improve your marketability towards future jobs. That alone is a plus.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having talked with many recruiters of large business and having done a lot of hiring myself, a college degree is not really about using your degree for your future career. The key factor that most all businesses look at first, is how long you have been with each job you have had. They are looking at your commitment level. A college degree is huge, and I mean a huge, plus in showing that you are commited to improving yourself and you are commited to sticking with what you have started. </p>
<p>There is a lot of money put into each new hire for any business. These businesses don&#8217;t want to lose money because they hired someone who isn&#8217;t commited to starting a career with them and quits in a month.</p>
<p>Another aspect that doesn&#8217;t receive much attention is that college teaches you how to learn and be diversified in your learning. Also, if common sense is applied, then students learn to give their professors what the professors want when completing homework, which is key in any school and work environment. </p>
<p>Although you may not use the knowledge you gained from earning your degree within your career lifetime, you pick up skills along the way and improve your marketability towards future jobs. That alone is a plus.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Ruckman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Ruckman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice post. I've been thinking about this alot myself. I started as a music major (clarinet &#38; education), then switched to graphic design, and in the process have changed schools twice, each time to a school that was more specialized in what I had chosen to do. I'm fixing to transfer again, for the last time, and will likely be settling into a communications / mass media degree. Pursuing graphic design directly involves &lt;em&gt;a lot&lt;/em&gt; of studio work: drawing, painting, etc. Not that these things aren't valuable, but school is expensive, and if I'm going to be paying out the ass for classes, they should at least be more directly related to my field of study, and at the very least not absorb so much of my time that I can't pursue my real interests on the side. In the end my degree will not have been so much for an actual education, but for mere certification -- so that if a job opens up that takes more into consideration than my portfolio and skills -- I'll have a B.A. in something, for whatever it's worth.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post. I&#8217;ve been thinking about this alot myself. I started as a music major (clarinet &amp; education), then switched to graphic design, and in the process have changed schools twice, each time to a school that was more specialized in what I had chosen to do. I&#8217;m fixing to transfer again, for the last time, and will likely be settling into a communications / mass media degree. Pursuing graphic design directly involves <em>a lot</em> of studio work: drawing, painting, etc. Not that these things aren&#8217;t valuable, but school is expensive, and if I&#8217;m going to be paying out the ass for classes, they should at least be more directly related to my field of study, and at the very least not absorb so much of my time that I can&#8217;t pursue my real interests on the side. In the end my degree will not have been so much for an actual education, but for mere certification &#8212; so that if a job opens up that takes more into consideration than my portfolio and skills &#8212; I&#8217;ll have a B.A. in something, for whatever it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Christensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Many businesses (especially large ones) still operate under the assumption that no college degree = less qualified and less commited. While it is important to know what you want to do with your life, you should also consider that you may end up choosing a career that requires a college degree. Not because you need college to be good at it, but because the hiring culture of many organizations is built around the relatively sound belief that all thing being equal, a candidate with a college degree is more qualified for the job. Call it wrong, outdated or whatever, but that's the mentality you may run up against. It would be a shame to find your calling only to realize that you are not qualified in the eyes of that field. The world of web design is a bit unique in that many of us did not complete college or, if we did, we have a degree in something totally unrelated to web design. Don't count on that lasting forever. Schools will catch up (sort of) and businesses will start looking for designers and developers with web-specific degrees.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many businesses (especially large ones) still operate under the assumption that no college degree = less qualified and less commited. While it is important to know what you want to do with your life, you should also consider that you may end up choosing a career that requires a college degree. Not because you need college to be good at it, but because the hiring culture of many organizations is built around the relatively sound belief that all thing being equal, a candidate with a college degree is more qualified for the job. Call it wrong, outdated or whatever, but that&#8217;s the mentality you may run up against. It would be a shame to find your calling only to realize that you are not qualified in the eyes of that field. The world of web design is a bit unique in that many of us did not complete college or, if we did, we have a degree in something totally unrelated to web design. Don&#8217;t count on that lasting forever. Schools will catch up (sort of) and businesses will start looking for designers and developers with web-specific degrees.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm almost done with grad school, and can say that neither my bachelors nor masters degree actually helped me prepare for what I now do for a living. I think that one thing education does give you is credibility. It says, "Hey, I'm willing to work hard, set goals, etc." That being said, it doesn't do a whole lot else, unless you're one of the few people who ends up doing what you went to school for, in which case I applaud your foresight for having chosen correctly from the get-go. I think the most important thing is to be a self-learner.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Reading your second paragraph under "The Lost" made me think of SXSW. There were guys there talking about usability and information architecture while staggering from the bar to their hotels. Most of the people there did not have IT / Comp Sci related degrees, because the truely successful people in web design / development are using methods too new for any school curriculum to have caught up with (aside from maybe Mike Rundle at RIT).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Case in point, my college site WSU.edu has not changed since I was a student there. I thought their "Accessibility" link in the footer referred to the website, but all it basically says "we have ramps on campus," while neglecting the whole picture. Anyway, I digress. Good article, and very true. If you were to go to college, I would say a good degree would be one related to business. That way, whatever you end up being passionate about, you know how to handle yourself in the cut-throat world that is the world marketplace.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m almost done with grad school, and can say that neither my bachelors nor masters degree actually helped me prepare for what I now do for a living. I think that one thing education does give you is credibility. It says, &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;m willing to work hard, set goals, etc.&#8221; That being said, it doesn&#8217;t do a whole lot else, unless you&#8217;re one of the few people who ends up doing what you went to school for, in which case I applaud your foresight for having chosen correctly from the get-go. I think the most important thing is to be a self-learner.</p>
<p>Reading your second paragraph under &#8220;The Lost&#8221; made me think of SXSW. There were guys there talking about usability and information architecture while staggering from the bar to their hotels. Most of the people there did not have IT / Comp Sci related degrees, because the truely successful people in web design / development are using methods too new for any school curriculum to have caught up with (aside from maybe Mike Rundle at RIT).</p>
<p>Case in point, my college site WSU.edu has not changed since I was a student there. I thought their &#8220;Accessibility&#8221; link in the footer referred to the website, but all it basically says &#8220;we have ramps on campus,&#8221; while neglecting the whole picture. Anyway, I digress. Good article, and very true. If you were to go to college, I would say a good degree would be one related to business. That way, whatever you end up being passionate about, you know how to handle yourself in the cut-throat world that is the world marketplace.</p>
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