Comments on: What exactly “enterprise software” really is http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/programming/what-exactly-enterprise-software-really-is/ my god, it's full of stars Mon, 08 Sep 2008 06:09:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: “Enterprise-grade” software « MalContent Management http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/programming/what-exactly-enterprise-software-really-is/#comment-118008 “Enterprise-grade” software « MalContent Management Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:47:25 +0000 #comment-118008 <p>[...] here’s a (mostly serious) summary courtesy of warpspire.com: So let’s set this straight here. Enterprise Software is software running on an Enterprise [...]</p> [...] here’s a (mostly serious) summary courtesy of warpspire.com: So let’s set this straight here. Enterprise Software is software running on an Enterprise [...]

]]> By: Kyle http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/programming/what-exactly-enterprise-software-really-is/#comment-162 Kyle Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:08:07 +0000 #comment-162 <p>Thanks for the great roundup of links dave. Yes, I was more or less referring to the general idea in the Rails world that we're somehow battling other programmers to prove that Rails can power "Enterprise Software." The thing is, no one's arguing against the right people - they're all arguing against other programmers. In the end, there is no actual distinction, merely calling the same dog by a different name - so arguing with other programmers is meaningless. Answering questions like "Does it scale?" or "Is it reliable?" lead to these kinds of bottomless pit arguments where the programmers suddenly realize there is no actual way to prove these questions since there are no hard requirements.</p> <p>I still stand by the fact that Enterprise software is no different than any other software, other than in marketers' eyes and ideas and names. I think what they are more referring to is professional software, the stuff you <em>have</em> to do at work. I'm not a programmer, and I can see that kind of confusion all the time. Programmers immediately associate any project they're working on at work as "Enterprise software" even if it's just a damn blog.</p> Thanks for the great roundup of links dave. Yes, I was more or less referring to the general idea in the Rails world that we’re somehow battling other programmers to prove that Rails can power “Enterprise Software.” The thing is, no one’s arguing against the right people - they’re all arguing against other programmers. In the end, there is no actual distinction, merely calling the same dog by a different name - so arguing with other programmers is meaningless. Answering questions like “Does it scale?” or “Is it reliable?” lead to these kinds of bottomless pit arguments where the programmers suddenly realize there is no actual way to prove these questions since there are no hard requirements.

I still stand by the fact that Enterprise software is no different than any other software, other than in marketers’ eyes and ideas and names. I think what they are more referring to is professional software, the stuff you have to do at work. I’m not a programmer, and I can see that kind of confusion all the time. Programmers immediately associate any project they’re working on at work as “Enterprise software” even if it’s just a damn blog.

]]> By: dave http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/programming/what-exactly-enterprise-software-really-is/#comment-161 dave Tue, 09 Aug 2005 13:40:18 +0000 #comment-161 <p>Strangely enough I saw the first real definition of 'Enterprise Software' recently, in a blog post about rails scalabality. I assumed that was what you were going to be referring to:</p> <p>http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2005-April/000772.html</p> <p>This post also covers many of the same issues though from a different angle:</p> <p>http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2005/05/28/ibm-poop-heads</p> <p>Joel's thoughts on software pricing is good too:</p> <p>http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckies.html</p> <p>Also, Bryan Cantrills thoughts on Software Economics:</p> <p>http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc/20040828</p> <p>All of which support the fact that Enterprise Software is in fact qualitatively different from other software, but all for purely non-technical reasons usually disfunctions brought on by the nature of software or the nature of the modern corporate world, most of which lead to lower technical quality, either by displacement or because the goals are mutually exclusive.</p> Strangely enough I saw the first real definition of ‘Enterprise Software’ recently, in a blog post about rails scalabality. I assumed that was what you were going to be referring to:

http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-tol/2005-April/000772.html

This post also covers many of the same issues though from a different angle:

http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2005/05/28/ibm-poop-heads

Joel’s thoughts on software pricing is good too:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckies.html

Also, Bryan Cantrills thoughts on Software Economics:

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/bmc/20040828

All of which support the fact that Enterprise Software is in fact qualitatively different from other software, but all for purely non-technical reasons usually disfunctions brought on by the nature of software or the nature of the modern corporate world, most of which lead to lower technical quality, either by displacement or because the goals are mutually exclusive.

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