Comments on: 7 Flash Myths http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/ my god, it's full of stars Sat, 17 May 2008 05:55:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3-alpha By: Tj http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-96787 Tj Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:17:51 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-96787 <p>@ All: It's not about the technique, it's about the communication/message and the target group of your client(s). If your assignment is to create a stunning visual online presentation for a new brand introduction, html with javascript/ajax simply doesn't give enough possibilities. with INSISOMO, (Interactivity, sight, sound, and motion-graphics) capabilities in Flash technology, indeed 98% of the users can experience a stunning brand (stage) website. You're all talking about SE indexing, ... how about using meta keywords? Google adwords as an extra next to a flash website? try to think in combinations instead of limitations. Html isn't better than flash, nor is the opposite. As a creative director of a digital design studio in Amsterdam, Netherlands, I believe interaction designers should aim for the best 'experience design' possible. regardless the technology. @All, keep up the good work. :)</p> @ All: It’s not about the technique, it’s about the communication/message and the target group of your client(s). If your assignment is to create a stunning visual online presentation for a new brand introduction, html with javascript/ajax simply doesn’t give enough possibilities. with INSISOMO, (Interactivity, sight, sound, and motion-graphics) capabilities in Flash technology, indeed 98% of the users can experience a stunning brand (stage) website. You’re all talking about SE indexing, … how about using meta keywords? Google adwords as an extra next to a flash website? try to think in combinations instead of limitations. Html isn’t better than flash, nor is the opposite. As a creative director of a digital design studio in Amsterdam, Netherlands, I believe interaction designers should aim for the best ‘experience design’ possible. regardless the technology. @All, keep up the good work. :)

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By: Kyle http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-87925 Kyle Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:12:09 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-87925 <p><strong>jhocking:</strong> Apologies if I come off rude: read the article before you read the comments. I addressed this <em>exact</em> issue in the third paragraph.</p> jhocking: Apologies if I come off rude: read the article before you read the comments. I addressed this exact issue in the third paragraph.

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By: jhocking http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-87507 jhocking Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:49:04 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-87507 <p>I've only read halfway through the comments so apologies if this was already addressed, but there was one very important point that joeri raised that was overlooked I think: "They also want to be able to copy and paste data from sites or save a page for future reference."</p> <p>He's referring to the inability to bookmark pages in a Flash website. Am I simply uninformed of the way to make bookmarking work with Flash? (I'm not a seasoned web developer after all.) If not however, I would consider the inability to bookmark pages a HUGE limitation. Or to email someone else a link to the specific page within a site which they should read, same limitation really.</p> I’ve only read halfway through the comments so apologies if this was already addressed, but there was one very important point that joeri raised that was overlooked I think:
“They also want to be able to copy and paste data from sites or save a page for future reference.”

He’s referring to the inability to bookmark pages in a Flash website. Am I simply uninformed of the way to make bookmarking work with Flash? (I’m not a seasoned web developer after all.) If not however, I would consider the inability to bookmark pages a HUGE limitation. Or to email someone else a link to the specific page within a site which they should read, same limitation really.

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By: Matthew http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-62523 Matthew Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:11:03 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-62523 <p>I realize this is an old article, but I had to laugh at saying MTV can have good Flash because there rich.. that is just wrong on all accounts.</p> <p>Flash isn't the issue, its the way it is used thats the issue.</p> <p>@Ben, You really don't have to spend much more time making Flash accessible.. use XML as the delivery medium, DDL for linking and external assets to build a sidecar XHTML version with little to no additional development time required.</p> I realize this is an old article, but I had to laugh at saying MTV can have good Flash because there rich.. that is just wrong on all accounts.

Flash isn’t the issue, its the way it is used thats the issue.

@Ben, You really don’t have to spend much more time making Flash accessible.. use XML as the delivery medium, DDL for linking and external assets to build a sidecar XHTML version with little to no additional development time required.

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By: Ched http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-48733 Ched Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:11:20 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-48733 <p>Great article, Kyle. You definitely know what you are talking about. </p> <p>Myself, I use Flash for my portfolio, Wordpress for my blog.</p> <p>When you know both mediums, you tend not to hate either one of them. No doubt the naysayers aren't yet comfortable with Flash.</p> <p><b>@Erik</b>Oh, and HTML shouldn't be synonymous with the word 'coding'. You can code in Flash as well, and it takes much more math skills than aligning pixels.</p> Great article, Kyle. You definitely know what you are talking about.

Myself, I use Flash for my portfolio, Wordpress for my blog.

When you know both mediums, you tend not to hate either one of them. No doubt the naysayers aren’t yet comfortable with Flash.

@ErikOh, and HTML shouldn’t be synonymous with the word ‘coding’. You can code in Flash as well, and it takes much more math skills than aligning pixels.

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By: Derek http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-45652 Derek Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:44:07 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-45652 <p>Go Kyle, Go. I totally agree with you. I do limited flash work as it's not my medium so much. I wish it was. I'm trying to make it my medium. Or at least add it to my tool box.</p> <p><em>It always looks like it’s made with flash. Round gradiant balls when gradiant is a new tool and everything blurred when the blur filter is implemented</em></p> <p>Why do all AJAX sites look like AJAX sites?</p> <p>I do think Flash has it's place and purpose. Just like all the other technologies have their place and purpose. I suspect the Flash flamers don't use flash because they never learned how.</p> Go Kyle, Go. I totally agree with you. I do limited flash work as it’s not my medium so much. I wish it was. I’m trying to make it my medium. Or at least add it to my tool box.

It always looks like it’s made with flash. Round gradiant balls when gradiant is a new tool and everything blurred when the blur filter is implemented

Why do all AJAX sites look like AJAX sites?

I do think Flash has it’s place and purpose. Just like all the other technologies have their place and purpose. I suspect the Flash flamers don’t use flash because they never learned how.

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By: Cram http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-44703 Cram Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:40:15 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-44703 <p>Well, Kyle is right. All of those problems can be overcome with flash but it is more difficult. Once you get a library of tools, perhaps it can be easy for you but there are few prebuilt systems available to buy for flash. Some of the big flash guys (odopod, firstborne, group94, etc) have systems that they can likely put in place very fast but they are not selling and certainly not giving these systems away. On the other hand, I downloaded wordpress for the first time and had a site running in about an hour and was on my way to tweaking the design. </p> <p>It is all about the right tool for the job. I prefer working in flash, to me it is more fun, but what most of my clients need is an html site. I just built a site in flash for a client with a cms, it took MUCH more time than it would take to do a similar site with wordpress (I suspect) and still doesn't have half the functionality and certainly not the deep community of plugins. </p> <p>I look forward to being able to develop a site however I like... more like a coder with html/css or more like a designer in a visual way in flash and the site have all the same strengths either way.</p> Well, Kyle is right. All of those problems can be overcome with flash but it is more difficult. Once you get a library of tools, perhaps it can be easy for you but there are few prebuilt systems available to buy for flash. Some of the big flash guys (odopod, firstborne, group94, etc) have systems that they can likely put in place very fast but they are not selling and certainly not giving these systems away. On the other hand, I downloaded wordpress for the first time and had a site running in about an hour and was on my way to tweaking the design.

It is all about the right tool for the job. I prefer working in flash, to me it is more fun, but what most of my clients need is an html site. I just built a site in flash for a client with a cms, it took MUCH more time than it would take to do a similar site with wordpress (I suspect) and still doesn’t have half the functionality and certainly not the deep community of plugins.

I look forward to being able to develop a site however I like… more like a coder with html/css or more like a designer in a visual way in flash and the site have all the same strengths either way.

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By: Artem http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-36049 Artem Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:29:31 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-36049 <p>Actually, even if Macromedia tries to deny this, Flash is really hard in SE indexing. Some of flash sites have many backlinks, but its hard to find themin SERP.</p> Actually, even if Macromedia tries to deny this, Flash is really hard in SE indexing. Some of flash sites have many backlinks, but its hard to find themin SERP.

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By: HOBO SEO http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-35636 HOBO SEO Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:08:28 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-35636 <p>When was the last time you saw a flash site at the top of any Google serp for a competitive keyphrase?</p> When was the last time you saw a flash site at the top of any Google serp for a competitive keyphrase?

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By: Sexo http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-31754 Sexo Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:44:11 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/7-flash-myths/#comment-31754 <p>The themes this year were absolutely astounding. I have no idea how judges could distribute the points among so many distinct designs, so statistically speaking (don’t take this literally please), anyone could be (is) a winner</p> The themes this year were absolutely astounding. I have no idea how judges could distribute the points among so many distinct designs, so statistically speaking (don’t take this literally please), anyone could be (is) a winner

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