Comments on: Your mom’s not accessible http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/your-moms-not-accessible/ my god, it's full of stars Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:26:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: tidy http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/your-moms-not-accessible/#comment-86096 tidy Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:15:34 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/interactive-development/your-moms-not-accessible-or-the-power-of-inaccurate-preaching/#comment-86096 <p>ur page is filled with html tidy errors!</p> ur page is filled with html tidy errors!

]]> By: Kyle http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/your-moms-not-accessible/#comment-83264 Kyle Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:25:26 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/interactive-development/your-moms-not-accessible-or-the-power-of-inaccurate-preaching/#comment-83264 <p><strong>Nathan:</strong> I should have been more specific; I meant <em>reasonably accessible to the visually impaired</em>. HTML by default is not in a usable shape for those using JAWS -- not unless it's a contrived example document.</p> <p>HTML is accessible by default in the same way that XML is accessible by default -- it's an open format that's easily consumed. Past that, it's up to the technology to make it realistically usable by the visually impaired.</p> Nathan: I should have been more specific; I meant reasonably accessible to the visually impaired. HTML by default is not in a usable shape for those using JAWS — not unless it’s a contrived example document.

HTML is accessible by default in the same way that XML is accessible by default — it’s an open format that’s easily consumed. Past that, it’s up to the technology to make it realistically usable by the visually impaired.

]]> By: Nathan Smith http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/web-production/your-moms-not-accessible/#comment-82917 Nathan Smith Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:58:57 +0000 http://warpspire.com/tipsresources/interactive-development/your-moms-not-accessible-or-the-power-of-inaccurate-preaching/#comment-82917 <p>Kyle: I think your argument is good, because it counter-balances the attitude of throwing the baby out with the bath water. I do however, take issue to this sentence: "Even HTML is not accessible by default." Doesn't that fly in the face of what Jeremy Keith said here...</p> <p><a href="http://adactio.com/journal/1224" rel="nofollow">http://adactio.com/journal/1224</a></p> <p>"... good markup is accessible by default. As long as you’re using HTML elements in a semantically meaningful way — which you should be doing anyway, without even thinking about accessibility — then your documents will be accessible to begin with. It’s only through other additions—visual presentation, behaviour, etc. — that accessibility is removed."</p> <p>I would say that HTML, in fact, <strong>is</strong> accessible by default.</p> Kyle: I think your argument is good, because it counter-balances the attitude of throwing the baby out with the bath water. I do however, take issue to this sentence: “Even HTML is not accessible by default.” Doesn’t that fly in the face of what Jeremy Keith said here…

http://adactio.com/journal/1224

“… good markup is accessible by default. As long as you’re using HTML elements in a semantically meaningful way — which you should be doing anyway, without even thinking about accessibility — then your documents will be accessible to begin with. It’s only through other additions—visual presentation, behaviour, etc. — that accessibility is removed.”

I would say that HTML, in fact, is accessible by default.

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